Frank Sauer's Page

Hi Frank,
Welcome to this group. I'm just another member and like to make it a habit of saying hello to new members! :) Personally, I'm currently in New Orleans but moving back to my native upstate NY in the coming months. I'm building the foundations for an alcohol fuel cooperative in the Finger Lakes.

Where is Hardwick?

I really do recommend the Blume book and am also in the midst of another, similar book by the fellow who led up the Mother Earth News "research" side of things in the 80's - Richard Freudenberger. His book is called Alcohol Fuel: Making and Using Ethanol As A Renewable Fuel. Very good thus far.

Best of luck and hope to hear more from you!

Cheers,
Peter
Spirited Raven Energy Cooperative
Trumansburg, NY

Frank,
I'd be interested in hearing how you do with the PVC version. That would certainly be a lot less expensive if it works well. There's a yahoo group called alcoholfuel that's very active with alot of people using the 803's. You may want to check it out if you haven't already.

As for the cooperative, my inquiries into the subject have proven this is a relatively nascient area of enterprise. That's part of the reason I'm so excited about being out on the cutting edge. It's like I remember about 15 years ago when the entire Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) movement began and I wanted to be part of that but circumstances conspired to put me on another path. I'm not missing this train, though!

I've actually begun writing an article (don't quite know where I'll publish it yet!) that'll do some case study reviews of existing alcohol fuel cooperatives. As I say, there's not much out there in way of actual enterprises that are making it happen. That said, though, I think this whole thing is about to explode. We're going to see a real flourescence of people figuring this out and making it happen in ways that work for them.

Northern Kingdom country is next on my list of places to visit. Perhaps, a visit to check out your PVC 803 will be in order sometime this Summer!

Cheers,
Peter Arena

Hello,

My friends in Burlington would very much like to connect with someone.

Could you contact me here and I will hook you up.

Best, Michael

Hi Frank,

We have two very small experimental crops we should harvest soon -- fodder beets and Jerusalem artichokes.  We would like to work with someone else on his/her still to turn our crops into ethanol.  Then, next year, we are going to scale-up and get a larger still of our own.  Do you know of anyone within 150 miles (Vt, NY, or Canada) that has a still and would be willing to work with us this fall?

Thanks, Rebecca

PS I didn't see an email from you.  My email is rebecca@waltzing.org

Frank

Were you in the Navy in 1968 & 69  stationed in Lemoore California  VA-122.

If you were please contact me.  Cass, Guidone  and I have been looking for you .

Tony Brescia

 

 

Hi Frank,

I'm in upstate NY, just south of Albany; wanting to connect with folks in the NE. Working toward a CSE hereabouts, tho just discovered this. Have a lifetime in construction, plumbing and electric, construction project management, and ten years teaching high school physics. Now "retired."

Best, Christian