Hi Kirk:
Getting back to following your introduction remark last month. Since then I and partners have taken the big step of producing EtOH. We used apples that were converted to 180 proof fuel. Ran fine in a tractor and a motorcycle...without dehydration.
The operation looked kinda rough, afterall we're just getting started which involves a certain amount of experimenting and knuckle busting. Two high points however, were the high performance of a C803 still I built from simple steel pipe...and no control valve for cheap. The other was the successful conversion of the apple pomace using pectilase, alpha-amylase, and gluco-amylase in 40 gallon batches.
I'm confident we can do better next time. Improvements under way are a higher volume apple crusher, high pressure hydraulic juice press, a second rectifying still, and vapor dehydration using zeolite. Most of this is being done using metal and parts we have on hand. Again, cheap. More later.
In response to your email, I've no plans for a still as yet. Right now, I'm just learning about all of the possibilities. I am new to Dave's notions, but once I've more info under my belt, I want to at least help disseminate what I've learned. Some of us can work best as propaganda conduits. The potential of Permaculture -- let alone its use toward ethanol production -- is the first good news I've heard in quite a while in the context of our civilization's sad destruction of the planet's ecology.
Looks like many folks here are just beginning to learn...
Prices are getting better,Im checking on some places in the sacramento area, I will keep you informed, do you have your still built.I just purchased t 3 reflux collums, expensive stuff
Kirk I live by Sacramento, I just started gathering my info to build a still and just take it from there, Im looking to use molases for my endevers, we need to start a type of learning coop in our region
Kirk,
You and I share a similar goal but you have articulated it better than I can. Good job.
My particular circumstance is a rural location in NE Washington state. Lots of opportunities for crop feedstocks and plenty of good 'ole boy ingenuity and desire for self-sufficiency.
Our initial efforts are underway for a demonstration project involving a 4" column, waste apples and firewood heated boiler. Much of the *plant* is being cobbled together from found materials that we have on hand. If it works, and interest remains high, we'll rebuild over the winter for a more serious attempt next year. Fermentation begins in 3 weeks.
kirk, thank you for taking time to reply. i live in the corn belt. i,am talking to alot of people about alcohol can be a gas. when the corn gets cut. were hoping to start. a alcohol still for fuel.at my brothers small 5 acre fram. will keep you posted. god bless. and good luck.
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Getting back to following your introduction remark last month. Since then I and partners have taken the big step of producing EtOH. We used apples that were converted to 180 proof fuel. Ran fine in a tractor and a motorcycle...without dehydration.
The operation looked kinda rough, afterall we're just getting started which involves a certain amount of experimenting and knuckle busting. Two high points however, were the high performance of a C803 still I built from simple steel pipe...and no control valve for cheap. The other was the successful conversion of the apple pomace using pectilase, alpha-amylase, and gluco-amylase in 40 gallon batches.
I'm confident we can do better next time. Improvements under way are a higher volume apple crusher, high pressure hydraulic juice press, a second rectifying still, and vapor dehydration using zeolite. Most of this is being done using metal and parts we have on hand. Again, cheap. More later.
Nice to hear from a fellow Boulder Creekan.
In response to your email, I've no plans for a still as yet. Right now, I'm just learning about all of the possibilities. I am new to Dave's notions, but once I've more info under my belt, I want to at least help disseminate what I've learned. Some of us can work best as propaganda conduits. The potential of Permaculture -- let alone its use toward ethanol production -- is the first good news I've heard in quite a while in the context of our civilization's sad destruction of the planet's ecology.
Looks like many folks here are just beginning to learn...
Yours,
--J
I will research molases for confection production or even raw sugar,. will keep you informed
Thanks
You and I share a similar goal but you have articulated it better than I can. Good job.
My particular circumstance is a rural location in NE Washington state. Lots of opportunities for crop feedstocks and plenty of good 'ole boy ingenuity and desire for self-sufficiency.
Our initial efforts are underway for a demonstration project involving a 4" column, waste apples and firewood heated boiler. Much of the *plant* is being cobbled together from found materials that we have on hand. If it works, and interest remains high, we'll rebuild over the winter for a more serious attempt next year. Fermentation begins in 3 weeks.
~Dennis