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What do you have to say about Dave's book "Alcohol Can Be A Gas"?
It has made my 20+ year dream a reality, my only complaint is the binding came apart, so I had to drill some holes in it and put it in a 3 ring binder. It should be common knowledge among every US citizen at the very least. It answered the tough to find questions that most people assume you just know, or that they don't realize they don't know..
About Me:
I'm an ASE certified Master Automotive Technician, CNC operator/programmer, machinist, disabled USAF veteran, fabricator, gear head, drag racer, that grew up on a Nebraska corn/hog/cattle farm in the 70s and 80s.
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Da Upper Penisnsula of Michigan eh.

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I broke down and bought two more T-unions, some valves, more 1/4" line, and a spool of 6" wide coppe…

I broke down and bought two more T-unions, some valves, more 1/4" line, and a spool of 6" wide copper sheet. I was having difficulty finding 3" tubing for the condenser so I decided to build one from sheet. It is more effort, but the price was right considering I can build a bunch of other stuff from the sheet, and really I only needed an 11" long piece of the 10' roll. Plenty left over for more projects. So now I will have two stills, and I might try one with plates rather than packing, it may… Continue

Posted on February 10, 2009 at 3:09pm — 6 Comments

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One of the project vehicles.

This particular blog might go for a few months with nothing in it, at least until the snow is gone and I can work outside. As I make progress, I will shoot photos and post information. I am on a very tight budget, as this isn't the only project I have going, so it will be done inexpensively and when time and funds permit, just like everything else I do.

It's a 79 Pontiac Trans Am that I traded for some parts, it has rust I need to repair, but is in otherwise good shape. As I go through the reju… Continue

Posted on January 23, 2009 at 9:00pm — 6 Comments

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At 7:11am on September 9, 2009, kelly barker said…
One more time--we have a group trying to form a small co-op to produce alcohol from cattails. We are building a still and are trying to get information about cattails. Would you please call me/write me at 715 305 2371 or zaca53@yahoo.com ?
At 3:02pm on August 20, 2009, kelly barker said…
I am told you are making ethanol from cattails. I really want to talk to
you about that. email me at zaca53@yahoo.com
or 715 305 2371 PEASE.
At 3:18pm on February 25, 2009, Craig Fazakerly said…
The C803 is a 3" column with a 2" reducer. I was able to get the pipe at the local plumbing store. It wasn't cheap, especially since I had to buy 10 ft sections and the plans only call for 5 ft of 3" pipe. The plans can be found in the Alcohol Fuel yahoo group, in the files section. Or I can email it to you. There is an excellent PDF file in there that gives you step by step instructions, along with prints. But I think you could build the column with the pdf file alone.

I agree with you, the LSx, etc engines are examples of art in motion. I have been debating on whether I should convert the GTO to ethanol or another vehicle. It would be much easier to tweak the cals the controller, but I don't have the money to invest in the hardware. Not when I have other tools available that I can play around with. I'm sure I could find someone around where I work that can tweak with cals, but they really frown on that for obvious reasons. That's why its best to stick with the aftermarket programming tools. Calibrators get asked all the time to recalibrate controllers for people.
At 10:36am on February 25, 2009, Craig Fazakerly said…
Hey Thumpin455,

Thanks for the offer to visit you UP 'dere. I am a born UP'er myself (born in Da Soo). I am looking forward to seeing your setup. By then I should be making alcohol myself, so we can compare notes. My friend likes the idea of going up to Marquette for our annual kayaking trip.

I also have a GTO that I want to convert to ethanol, but mine is one of the newer ones (2004). In one respect, this plays to my advantage. I am an engineer for GM, where I am responsible for the test system used at the end of the assembly line. Part of that test actually allows me to modify the engine control parameters outside of the normal control of the engine controller. I was looking at the spec for my GTO today and noticed that I have the ability to control the air/fuel ratio and the spark advance with a tool plugged into the connector under the instrument panel. So, essentially, I can back-door a way to command the engine to optimize for ethanol without a box underhood. Granted, this will still require a small tool plugged into the under dash connector, which isn't too difficult for me to obtain. But I also have the ability to display any data from the engine someone could want. So tuning this setup should be a fun project. One other point, these controls only work when the controller is in "assembly plant mode". So these controls are technically locked out from normal service garage use. However, since I know the key to put it in this mode (I actually assign the security algorithms), I have a back door into the system.

The problem is I can only control these values on certain GM vehicles, which include my GTO. The ECMs built today don't allow me to control AFM and only retard spark, not advance. And I have no information on any non GM products. But this does open up the potential for a new type of home brew E85 conversion box.

Take Care,
Craig
At 7:42pm on February 23, 2009, Hugh said…
Hello Thumpin455

Thanks for sharing the tater instructions. I've been corresponding with Peggy about cattails and I mentioned this discussion. She is trying to contact you but cannot find your email address. She asked me to ask you to contact her at rpk@gvtc.com. She would like to share her data collection format with you.

Keep up the good work.
Hugh
At 2:27pm on January 29, 2009, Rick Ralston said…
That plant I referred to was to be located in Chippewa County, in the town of Kinross. The most current info I can find is from October of 08 but I thought I had heard that it was in operation but I can’t confirm it. The parent company is Mascoma, partnered with JM Longyear of Marquette and was to form a new company, Frontier Renewable Resources, all of which is aided with $26.0 million in funding from the DOE and an overall contribution of $23.5 million from the State of Michigan.
At 11:52pm on January 23, 2009, Rick Ralston said…
Welcome Trumpin455, it sounds like you have a pretty good plan. I'm sure that if you stick to it you will win over many followers. I would think that once you have proven results with Ethanol others around you will see the possabilities. Are you familiar with the cellulosic ethanol plant that is in the UP?
At 11:01pm on January 21, 2009, Thumpin455 said…
I have some photos of my cars and trucks online. There are folders to the left, just click them to look around. I bought most of these as drivers, and while I could sell them to finance my project, then I would be limited in resources. Its difficult to explain, but I can get a few thousand $$ worth of parts from a $200 car. So I tend to keep them around, and a few are worth much more than I could get for them in the shape they are currently in. So selling them isnt an option to me. Please dont even suggest it.

http://s189.photobucket.com/albums/z278/AuCinaoaMie/Cars%20and%20trucks/
At 10:53pm on January 21, 2009, Thumpin455 said…
Thanks for the kind word. My name is Todd, and yes I enjoy building things, and one of them is most definitely an 8" still with two 250 gallon boilers. Depends on what I can scrounge for the parts.

I am trying my best to make Mr Blume's vision reality, and I am doing it as green as I possibly can. My feedstocks are spoiled fruit and vegetables from the local grocers, and I have access to quite a few cattails. I plan to cultivate cattails as well, so I dont need to travel very far to get them, also to avoid disrupting wetlands here in Michigan. My biggest stumbling block isnt knowledge or skills, but funding. Poverty is also my greatest inspiration, since I cant afford to do things like most people, I need to figure out a way I can do things with very little cash. This entire project started out as a way to allow me to race one of my cars again, and enjoy the others. I save money on projects by doing 99% of the work myself, I build engines, transmissions, set up gears and differentials, do body work and paint, and even interior and glass work. I am not afraid to try anything on my muscle cars.

About people in my area. People in my area are not wealthy, I live in an economically depressed region. We have no industry, no agriculture to speak of, and its mainly tourism that powers the entire Upper Peninsula. Everyone I know here either works 3-4 jobs, is running 3-5 businesses, or is living with other people who can only find one job. The biggest expenses are fuel, heat in winter, and electricity. I know, big surprise.

Marquette is a city of about 26,000 people and the gas prices are comparable to the entire state of California, whatever the state average for Michigan is, we are always 30 to 50 cents higher at the very least. The local station owners know we cant drive 60+ miles to fill up somewhere else, so they charge us a bit extra, simply because they can. There is one E85 station up here, and one 3 hours away on the Canadian border at the Sault.

Not only am I working on ethanol, I am also working on passive heating systems made from wood chips and yard waste so we can either cut our heating costs, or eliminate them entirely. I got the idea from Jean Pain of France, and I have adapted it to our region and this summer I should have the bugs worked out and be able to help other people gain some freedom.

The one problem is yoopers, thats what they call themselves here, are the see it before they believe it types, and very few of them have enough money to sink into something that isn't proven. Then there is the simplicity of Mr Pain's design, its completely passive and creates abundant energy with the things we have all around us, since we live in a forest. It is so simple, so inexpensive, and so uncommon that few believe it will work. To say that I get quite a few looks that would be similar to me having a third eye in my forehead would be an understatement. They think I am nuts.

Some think its too much work to do what I am doing, yet they will work for two weeks or more of each month just to heat the house and buy gasoline. So for now I am on my own with a vision of what it could be, and how people could work together here and improve their lives.

Jean Pain's biogas plant is the energy source I plan to use for heating my house, cooking, 32'x44' shop, boiling my mash, and running generators with methane. Eventually I will grow organic veggies with CO2 harvested from the methane production as well as the fermentation, using the humus from the biogas plants as soil. Then I will show anyone who wants to know how to do it, and teach them the safe way of doing all of this.

Sorry this is book length.
At 10:38am on January 21, 2009, Sodbuster said…
About time we get some folks in here that have got some hard core experience with automotive industry, and a ASE masters on top of all that.

Welcome aboard there "Mr Thumpin 455"

Auto Tech, CNC operator/programmer, machinist,USAF veteran,fabricator,and a gear head/drag racer... WOW sure glad your here!
 
 

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